A UK – Philippine family

Cebu,Philippines a British expat and his wifes experiences of life, the city and all.

Our new Projects begin July 10, 2008

mattwilkie @ 7:01 pm


Less than a year ago many things seemed far away. There has been a picture of doom and gloom painted over doing business in the Philippines by mainly expats here. But me being me all thats been ignored and looking to create a future for my family. Aswell as help improve the lives of my wifes family.

So far the piggery is now built and has received its first batch of piglets yesterday :-

piglets
piglets

Now after spending a lot of time listening to other expats i seem to find that they look at the world through different eyes. Im a different generation from most of them. BUT they are very negative with most businesses. Pigs the food is too expensive, chickens they get stolen etc. etc. But one thing ive noticed when im in the Philippines is the average Filipino is very versatile in getting by. Having a large piggery may not be successful. But if you have a small piggery and chickens you process and sell yourself either as fresh meat or as food in an eatery you are already almost maximising your product only other thing that could improve it is making your own feeds. Which is possible with some practice and knowledge. This is stage one of our projects.

The others are on the way not far behind. Goat breeding and building our first house, which will also be some what of a project as we are trialing a new type of house not so wide spread in production in the Philippines. The downside to this is ill have to head back to the UK in August to start rebuilding the bank for funds for the projects. Although the pigs sell every 3 1/2 – 4 months with Aprils calculations we are currently looking at a return of around P40,000 all going well and likely to be a bit more. Which can yield around – P200,000 per annum before increasing stock sizes. Im hoping that we can get the pigs and goats bringing in a regular income within 6 – 8 months. To help build the stocks. Increasing every time they goto market. We have plenty of room for expansion currently and if the house building goes as planned pigs can also be stocked up at the house aswell fingers crossed.
ONE MONTH ON
One month on and weve had to make some changes aswell as added a bit of expansion. Firstly the type of bedding we had didnt work. It kept the odour down but seems to have created worms so thats been scrapped. Second issue was water we initially started with a basin full of water but pigs being pigs there would always be one or two of them in the middle of it which then creates the problem of cross contamination after walking in theyre own urine and poo. So we have altered everything. This is the reason to start small.. imagine if you had invested hundreds of thousands to find it doesnt work. I look at most projects as a cook in a house. Better to be told what is good and bad by my family before trying to get hundreds of people to eat it.
This is the new water feeder which is fed from a seperate tank from the water mains which allows it to always have water rather than relying on the water from the mains which seems to come and go off at certain times of the day.

 Basically the pigs can push the valve to get theyre own water which saves on waste and greatly reduces the contamination risk.

The next addition was due to the problems we are currently having with the bedding the second pen has now received its concrete floor and a septic tank. This currently allows us to expand into 30 piglets at a time. But emptying the tank is P2000 a hit we will see how things work out.
Everything is going well and keeping the project small has helped a lot because we can afford to learn by our mistakes. The piglets are also starting to put weight on well which is great as its the whole idea of the project to make money.

Sept 2008 Stock 2 arrives

New batch getting used to the new home. Construction of pen 3 will commence this month also. Which will put the small piggery to capacity at my wifes parents. But soon enough we will be beginning the construction of the main farm.
We came across a problem while sourcing these piglets which quite simply was piglets werent ready from where we wanted the stock, there were batches of sick at other stocks, some piglet batches were smaller. All these problems made me look at where would we be when our stock is heading towards 150 pigs. The answer was simple we need to breed our own. I then looked at the health aspects and worry about introduction of other stocks what if it made ours sick? Wipe out our entire stock in one hit for a batch of 10? So we are going to start looking at breeding our own for the health of our stock aswell as it makes life easier generally once we get the artificial insemination and the right time to do it under our belt.

The funniest thing that happened on the day was what this “Kodak” moment caught which is batch one investigating the new neighbours :-

A developing problem

One thing we have discovered is pigs make a lot of waste. The issue we are currently having though is the mix of solids and liquid waste which we have now solved. But still left with a lot of liquid in the tank that we need to resolve. We have had to add a pipeline and trap to take the fluids away from entering into the tank as shown. An extra expense but was badly needed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another issue we have come against is time for looking after the Pigs is 3 x i had expected. But i didnt realise the issue was water and getting it to the pigs. We have resolved the issue by adding an electric pump and hoses to feed it. Next stage will be getting the rating (im abroad so cant find out until installed) at which point ill get a solar panel that is rated to feed the pump and maybe trickle charge batteries when not in use to also feed lighting in the evenings as the pump wont be needed more than a couple of hours a day.

Pictures as promised :-

One thing i didnt realise is that although pigs cant fly they definitly can jump! Currently an issue we  have is they can clear the sty and jumping between the pens.

The hose and pump have dropped the time needed to take care of the pigs from nearly a full day to just over an hour a day. Which proves even a little bit of technology goes a long way. The problem is quite simply there is a severe lack of investment in the Philippines at roots level. But a little bit makes a big difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

8 Responses to “Our new Projects begin”

  1. Phil Says:

    Looks like go are getting on with things quite well, i to are from the UK, but living with the wife and kids in Laguna, about 1 1/2 hours south of Manila. I was looking around and am serious about buying a piggery, though i know nothing about breeding them, the place i am interested is already a running business, but the owner is going abroad, so they say. I have yet to go and have a look at the place. I still have a bunch of research to do, but i am just looking at something, to keep me here in the Philippines instead of rotating back and forth abroad. i have a couple of other businesses here, but seasonal only, thats why i was looking at a piggery farm, which has alot of room for exspansion, i know its got to be alot of work in the begining, but doing it your way, must give you a feeling of satisfaction and the will to succeed in making this work. Keep in touch and best of luck
    Regards
    Phil

  2. mattwilkie Says:

    Hi Phil,
    welcome to our projects :) there is plenty to learn thats for sure. One thing that i would strongly advise is learning treatments for illnesses. Im lucky that my mother inlaw has a great knowledge and seeds from one plant or leaves from another are good for illnesses keeping us out of a vets pocket. Im also looking at expansion into BBQ Pig and if your in Manila with a good stock might be something we can “co-op” on as i will primarily be looking to do business in Cebu due to the time the meat is regarded as at its best. Im also looking at producing meat products and happy to share information with you. Maybe better to discuss in the piggery section at http://www.tropicalpenpals.com/forum as its easier to send replys back and forth.

  3. mattwilkie Says:

    This site you will also find a great resource of information :-
    http://www.thepigsite.com/swinenews/vars/country/ph

    Aswell as on the links to do with farming on the right

  4. Barry Says:

    Hello Matt,
    I am glad in what you are doing, and also to ignore the negative remarks from other expats, i myself lived on a island 6hrs from Manila called Lubang, i was running an esate for Lord Headfort from UK and was actively working on his farm of garlic and a special rice we grew, after his death i was involved in many projects in Manila with many expats, but i unfortunately had to return to Uk for health reasons. Well its nearly 3 yrs now and my friend has since visited PI and fell in love with the place and also a lady there, he has since gone into the phosphate mining buisness but wants to start breeding pigs to he knows his family and their family (you know the score) are all living well, he has also asked if i would like to return with him as i also have my fiancee there in Manila, so we are looking to travel back and start a pig farm of what i know nothing about, his girlfriends family are ex pig producers so we will have to listen to their reccomendation on everything but i would like to know all the tricks of the westerner you have made to make things better and easier, also the general price of buying to start, the feed and general sale of the young pig, i know when i was there they sold for p1500 but i have been told in Leyte they go for around p2000 now, hope when you have time we can chat more, many thanks and keep up the good work Barry..

    • mattwilkie Says:

      Hi Barry,
      good to hear from you.. The piggery can be a viable business but like most things its down to making it profitable. A lot of the expats seem to get other people involved and as no doubt you know employing people doesnt mean they are as keen on the business success as you are infact the opposite often happens. Stealing is a major issue as businesses grow but currently we havent had it within our businesses. Im going to look at starting a seperate site for expats and farming as its more of a discussion area aswell as suppliers and building construction companies and designs will need space to show what they can do. Which is a bit confined within wordpress. The biggest issues ive come across within the pig farming is that you have to choose your breeds carefully and better to establish your own breeding once you are able to so you can guarantee the growth and quality of the pigs. Another major issue ive found is that the feed prices seem to go up and at the butchers the prices go up. But the farmers price doesnt move. So being a bit more diverse is the way forward. Trying to sell your own meats directly or converting into products that are more saleable. Also many farmers have changed some of the feeds within the pigs diets to increase the profits. But all depends if your selling to market or selling your own meats because currently our pigs are favoured within the local markets due to high meat content and low fat. But im hoping in the future once we have space to start manufacturing sausages,burgers, cured bacon for the local expat community and hopefully convert some of the locals tastes to our more expensive but better flavoured products but time will tell..

      Im happy to share information as I develop the ideas. The reason it all started in the first place was due to knowing the high failure rates within many of these start up businesses and the lack of cross working between expats. With a population of over 80million within the Philippines i doubt we will ever find expats that actually compete with each directly in the farming businesses.
      Look forward to chatting to you more soon Barry..

  5. Peter Burke Says:

    Hi Matt:

    Some constructive crititism:

    Your setup with the water pump and Jetmatic is really not good, Firstly the hollow blocks are as strong as weetabix so that you will have a broken pump when it falls on the floor? so really better you get that concrete. Your Jet-matic hand pump I would suggest that you install a non-return valve to maintain water in the pipe that way you wil find the water comes out a lot easier. The water pipe accross the doorway doesn’t look good.

    It looks like a Filipino Piggery in the Philippines not an English Piggery in the Philippines You would do well to apply British technology and methods to improve efficiency Filipino just do what they know but you do not have to blindly follow.

    Maybe you could try and get a small vacuum seal packager like they have here in the UK small butchers to enable you to add value and sell a quality end product.

    Good luck with your venture and be carefull yoou don’t get an electric shock it so easy with the ropey filipino twisted together bodged wiring!

  6. Peter Burke Says:

    I’m a vegetarian by the way!

  7. tom Says:

    Hello, I am working with a pig farmer in Mindanao with just 5 pigs which are the same breed as yours and looking into the the idea of feeding the pigs vegetation Gabi Leaves and Lpil-ipil leaves in order to reduce the cost of feed yet maintain the grown weight. Have you had any experience with this idea? Below is a link to a site that has developed a method for Columbia:
    http://www-naweb.iaea.org/nafa/aph/stories/2005-pig-production.html
    Your comments would be greatly appreciated.


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